DISCERNMENT IS ESSENTIAL

Today, many psychologists confuse spiritual problems with psychological ones, and this confusion ultimately harms the individual. Not every inner conflict stems from an emotional wound, childhood trauma, or a chemical imbalance. Some struggles are rooted in conscience, moral life, the relationship with God, and the ultimate meaning of life. When everything is psychologized, what is actually spiritual disorder, objective guilt, temptation, or a lack of inner life ends up being treated as pathology.

Modern psychology, having lost its holistic anthropology, tends to interpret all anguish as a symptom, all inner demands as repression, and all moral struggles as neurotic conflict. Thus, a person living in contradiction with their conscience is soothed instead of being helped to order their life. The discomfort is anesthetized without discerning its cause. But some suffering persists because it doesn't originate from a wound, but from an inner rupture between what is experienced and what is known to be right. This cannot be healed simply by talking;  Healing comes through conversion, ordering, and taking responsibility.

Saint Anthony the Abbot said that it is important to soberly distinguish between human frailty and spiritual combat. He taught that the devil acts primarily in our thoughts, taking advantage of laziness, pride, and lack of vigilance. If the problem is spiritual, the remedy is not exclusively psychological: it is prayer, the sacraments, inner discipline, and living truth. Treating this as a “disorder” disorients the soul.

This does not mean disregarding psychology or denying real disorders. There is clinical anxiety, pathological depression, and deep wounds that require serious professional intervention. The error lies in not knowing how to discern. When a psychologist does not believe in the spiritual dimension of humankind, they interpret everything from an emotional or behavioral perspective. And thus, the person becomes trapped in endless therapies for a problem that is not clinical, but existential and spiritual.

Knowing how to differentiate is an act of professional and human responsibility. Good accompaniment distinguishes between what is addressed with therapy and what is confronted with conversion, spiritual life, and moral order.  Not everything can be cured with techniques, just as not everything can be resolved through prayer alone. But when a spiritual struggle is confused with a psychological problem, the person is deprived of the remedy they truly need. True help integrates, it doesn't diminish; it illuminates the full reality of the person and doesn't mutilate an essential part of their inner life.

The Catholic Psychologist

Retracing History (Beautiful video)

 

Merry Christmas to our readers and friends

 On this holy night, allow the Christ Child to be born in your heart and in your home, and never let Him go. 

 Let the world continue its course, while you and your family step away from its whirlwind to silently and reverently adore the Child born in the humblest manger. Afterward, with fervor, sing to Him and lull Him to sleep with Christmas carols, and pray, thanking Him for all the blessings He brings. This is not just another family dinner: it is a family gathering to celebrate the birth of the Christ Child. 

 Saint Alphonsus Liguori teaches us: "Only in this Child did the eternal Father find his delight, because, as Saint Gregory says, only in him did he find no sin. Let us, therefore, miserable sinners, take comfort, for this divine Infant has come from heaven to communicate his innocence to us through his Passion. His merits, if we only knew how to value them, can transform us from sinners into saints and innocents; let us place our trust in them, let us always ask the eternal Father for grace through them, and we will obtain everything."

HUMILITY

   “To be humble is to desire God’s esteem and despise that of men. ‘Love being ignored and considered nothing’: therefore, we must strive to deny all influence over our hearts to words like ‘promotions,’ ‘popularity,’ ‘esteem,’ and other such formulas. Christ was numbered among the criminals: why do we so desperately want to be numbered among the best?” 

 Fr. Edouard Poppe

A WORD OF ADVICE FROM THE CURÉ OF ARS FOR THE END OF THE YEAR

 “Many Christians work only to satisfy this corpse [he always called the body a ‘corpse’] that will soon rot in the earth; and yet they do not think of their poor soul, which must be eternally happy or unhappy. They lack spirit and common sense: this is terrifying! You see, my children, we must remember that we have a soul to save and an eternity that awaits us. The world, riches, pleasures, and honors will pass away, but heaven and hell will never pass away. Let us be careful!” 

 Saint Curé of Ars

Bishop Schneider met with the Pope, presumably to request that he liberate the Traditional Latin Mass and not appoint bishops who are veritable heretical wolves.

This article from last July sheds light on the topics discussed by the bishop with Leo XIV in their recent meeting:

Mons.  𝐒𝐜𝐡𝐧𝐞𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐡𝐚𝐜𝐞 𝐮𝐧 𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐝𝐨 𝐚𝐥 𝐏𝐚𝐩𝐚 𝐋𝐞𝐨́𝐧 𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐚 𝐪𝐮𝐞 “𝐥𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐥𝐚 𝐌𝐢𝐬𝐚  𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥

By Emily Mangiaracina, LifeSiteNews 07/16/2025

Bishop Schneider urged Pope Leo XIV to ‘protect’ the lay faithful who are being ‘persecuted’ by the suppression of the Traditional Latin Massendt of the Confraternity of Our Lady of Fatima brought up the TLM crackdown prompted by Pope Francis’ document 

Traditionis.“It is an injustice. We must publicly say this,” said Bishop Schneider, the auxiliary of the Diocese of Astana in Kazakhstan. He pointed out that the TLM suppression is particularly unjust during a time when, as under Francis, the top levels of the Church declare the importance of listening to all the lay faithful and accepting their “proposals and desires,” as he noted.

“But only one category is punished, and marginalized. These are the faithful priests who only wish to pray and to celebrate Mass, to assist Mass, and it was done during… almost a millennium, and by the saints,” he said. 

When asked what the Holy Father should do in response, Bishop Schneider urged him to “protect” his “daughters and sons” who are being “persecuted” by the bishops throttling access to the TLM, such as in the Archdiocese of Detroit, where as of July 1, TLMs were banned in all of its 28 parish locations and delegated to a mere four locations.

“This is unbearable. It is a great injustice towards good faithful who only desire to pray as did their forefathers,” lamented Bishop Schneider. “Nothing more. Who love the pope, who love their bishop.”

The prelate declared that it is “urgent” for the pope to protect the faithful who are being treated as “second class” Catholics and called upon the faithful to pray for Pope Leo “that he may recognize this injustice” and “have the courage” to free the Latin Mass through an act of his magisterium.

Bishop Schneider pointed out that Pope Pius V had “solemnly canonized” the Traditional Latin Mass in his bull Quo Primum, which declared in an “extraordinary” way that “no one can be forbidden, even in future,” to offer the Tridentine Mass. 

Quo Primum ordains that, “in perpetuity,” the Missal of the Tridentine Mass “is hereafter to be followed absolutely, without any scruple of conscience or fear of incurring any penalty, judgment, or censure, and may freely and lawfully be used” and that “this present document cannot be revoked or modified, but remains always valid and retains its full force.”

Quo Primum ordains “in perpetuity,”

The Astana bishop expressed hope that Pope Leo XIV stop the “persecution” of the TLM, something Catholics have implored him to do in a letter campaign. Leo XIV has not yet responded or given any indication he will recognize the authority of Quo Primum by declaring Traditionis Custodes invalid. Instead, by granting a TLM in Texas a two-year extension, he appears to be recognizing the dictates of Traditionis Custodes.

Wendt continued on to ask if Bishop Schneider thought it was fair to “evaluate” Leo XIV by his clerical appointments, something he began to participate in as prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops.

The bishop said that by appointing bishops “who are promoting confusion and ambiguities or even errors which were known before the appointment,” that is, “dubious candidates, ambiguous candidates or openly heterodox candidates,” the pope is “opening the door” to let “wolves” enter into the flock.

Orthodox Catholics and clergy such as Bishop Joseph Strickland have already raised concerns about the doctrinal fidelity of clerical appointments of Leo XIV, including for example his appointment of Bishop Shane Mackinlay, who has publicly expressed support for the possibility of “ordaining” women to the diaconate, as archbishop of Brisbane.

Bishop Schneider believes God will hold every pope to account “about his appointments.”

Father Pio said

 

MESSAGE FROM OUR LADY OF AKITA TO SISTER AGNES

October 13, 1973

"My dear daughter, listen carefully to what I have to tell you. You will inform your superior."

After a short silence:

"As I told you, if men do not repent and amend their ways, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the flood, such as has never been seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and wipe out a great part of humanity, both the good and the bad, without exception for priests or the faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only weapons they will have left will be the rosary and the sign left by my Son. Recite the prayers of the rosary every day. With the rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops, and the priests."

"The work of the devil will infiltrate even the Church to such an extent that cardinals will be pitted against cardinals, bishops against bishops. Priests who venerate me will be despised and will face opposition from their fellow priests... churches and altars will be plundered; the Church will be filled with those who accept compromises, and the devil will pressure many priests and consecrated souls to abandon the service of the Lord.

"The devil will be especially relentless against souls consecrated to God. Thinking of the loss of so many souls is the cause of my sorrow. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will be no forgiveness for them.

"Speak courageously to your superior. He will know how to give each one the strength to pray and to perform acts of reparation."

"It is Bishop Ito who leads your community."

"  And she laughed and then said:

"Do you still have something to ask? Today is the last time I will speak to you with a living voice. From now on, you will obey the one who sends you and your superior.

"Pray the Rosary often. Only I can still save you from the approaching calamities. Those who place their trust in me will be saved."

WHERE ARE YOU GOING, LADY?

The Mother of God emerges from heaven in all her majesty. A cherub carries her on his wings, wings of varied colors, like those of the birds of Mexico. Millions upon millions of angels precede her, formed in immense squadrons. Celestial music resounds throughout the universe, and the Angels of the Americas sing the march of redemption: that song of which David speaks in Psalm 110: Redemptionem missit populo suo (He sent redemption to his people).

As she passes, the stars that populate the immensity of the firmament bow before the firstborn of all creation.  The sun descends to bathe her in its rays, and the stars come to adorn her sea-green mantle... She is not preceded by lightning and thunder, as in times past when the God of Sinai appeared; but by the moon, a sign of peace and covenant, the covenant she comes to celebrate with a people who will be hers forever.

The angelic choirs ask in wonder: Quae est ista? 'Who is this most beautiful Virgin, whose complexion is dark and whose hair is as black as that of the daughters of Cuauhtémoc and Moctezuma? Whose waist is as slender as the palm trees of Anáhuac and whose eyes are as chaste as those of the doves of our lakes?'

They ask: 'Where are you going, Lady? Are you going to Rome, the Eternal City?' And Mary answers them: 'No'—'Are you going to Greece, the ancient homeland of science and the fine arts?'  "No." "Are you going to Spain, mistress of the seas, the richest in the world?" "No." "Are you going to Jerusalem, that beautiful captive, once sung of by David and Solomon, and now with its hair disheveled and its brow in the dust?"

"Are you going to Nazareth, to Mount Carmel, your former and beloved home?"

"No. I am going to an unknown corner of the world, which will be called Mexico. I am going to the simple nation of the Opatas, who live in Sonora under tents of chimborazoan hides, and to the nation of the Huastecas, who live in thatched huts under the palm trees of Potosí. I am going to the nation of the Otomites, who have no houses and sleep in hammocks, like the orioles that hang their net-like nests from the cypress trees of Querétaro."  I am going to the nation of the Tarascans, who practice their mechanical arts in Michoacán and the Sierra of Guanajuato. I am going to the nation of the Aztecs, who dwell in the lakes of Tenochtitlan, in Zacatecas, Jalisco, and Colima, and who, to the sound of their drum and their teponahuaxtli, and in the sweetest of languages, will sing me the praises of the New Testament.

I am going to the nation of the Totonacs, who are white, live on the slopes of Orizaba and Acultzingo, and practice circumcision, like those Israelites taken captive by Salmanazar, who were lost in the ice of Russia. I am going to the nation of the Mixtecs, who in Oaxaca build temples in the Etruscan style and cultivate cochineal, more precious than the murex of the Greeks.  I am going to the nation of the Chiapanecas, who live in Chiapas, who claim to be the inhabitants of the New World and descendants of a venerable old man who built a very large boat to save himself and his family from a global flood. I am going to the nation of the Chichimecas, who live in the miserable shacks of Jalostitlán, Teocaltiche, and Comanja.

From all these and many other nations with diverse languages, customs, beliefs, and governments, I am going to form a single family: one very great, very holy, very dear thing called the Fatherland; and I will be the Protector and the Mother of that new Fatherland. I carry the likeness of all Mexicans in the pupils of my eyes; I carry all their sorrows in my heart and their names written on my right hand. I am going to rescue their souls from sin and their bodies from brutality.

'I will not dwell in the marble palaces of Venice, nor in the gardens of the Alhambra in Granada, but on a barren mountain. I will live upon the rocks like a dove, to pray and move the Eternal One on behalf of my people, who until now have been wandering and unfortunate. I will not speak with Charles V nor with Francis I, but with an Indian, who has nothing more than a rough cloak, made from the fiber of his fields. On that cloak, which is the cradle of his children, I will imprint my likeness. And this likeness, which they will venerate in ecstasy, will be the token I leave to the Mexicans of my eternal love.'

 

THE ATHEIST SEEKS TO SIN WITHOUT REMORSE

 

DECEMBER 8: THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION

Mary, whenever she has turned her maternal gaze upon the earth, in Lourdes, as in the apparitions of the Miraculous Medal, in La Salette, in Fatima, has shown herself solicitous and loving toward her children, poor sinners. She, in the wondrous grotto of Massabielle, before revealing herself—"I AM THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION"—asked the innocent Bernadette for prayers and penances for sinners. Oh! You are truly all beautiful, O Immaculate Mary, and full of Mercy.

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO RECONCILE CHRIST WITH BELIAL

 

“Everyone should avoid familiarity or friendship with anyone suspected of belonging to Freemasonry or its affiliated groups. Know them by their fruits and avoid them. All familiarity must be avoided, not only with those impious libertines who openly promote the character of the sect, but also with those who hide behind the mask of universal tolerance, respect for all religions, and the desire to reconcile the maxims of the Gospel with those of the revolution. Such men seek to reconcile Christ and Belial, the Church of God and the godless state.”

POPE LEO XIII, Encyclical “Custodi di quella Fede”, no. 15, December 8, 1892.

Taken from Poco y Católico.

SUBLIME PRAYER OF SAINT GERMANY OF CONSTANTINOPLE (635-733) IN PRAISE OF THE MOST BLESSED VIRGIN MARY

“Hail, O you who, moved with compassion upon seeing the terrible nakedness to which we were reduced in the Garden of Eden by the pernicious fruit that brought death to our souls, covered us with a wondrous mantle; a mantle not woven by human hands, but given to us by God himself; you who, when we were mired in the mud of iniquity, were given to us as the remission of sins, O Holy Spouse of the Almighty!”

“Hail, O you who, moved with compassion upon seeing the terrible nakedness to which we were reduced in the Garden of Eden by the pernicious fruit that killed our souls, covered us with a wondrous mantle; a mantle not woven by human hands, but given to us by God himself; you who, when we were mired in the mud of iniquity, were given to us as the remission of our ...  Hail, O you who, with your resolute steps, trample underfoot that tyrant who dragged us into transgression to our harm, that treacherous counselor, that enemy of all good, that deceitful serpent called the Devil, and take, as if by the hand, our corruptible nature, ever ready to fall, to lead it, in your company, to the spiritual Sanctuary and the divine Tabernacle that never grows old.

Hail, O you who caused the radiance of a day of joy and gladness to spring forth upon the heads of those who were chained in the darkness of death, in the abyss of sickness, and upon whom you promised to dispel, by the Power of God, that baleful darkness, O Mary, more sublime than all miracles.

Hail, O you who pour down upon us the divine dew of understanding, O bright Cloud who raised on our horizon, shrouded in the shadows of death, the brightest of all suns!  O fountain that, having its source in heaven, forms those swift rivers of the knowledge of God, which sweep away in their course, through the clear and pure waters of orthodox faith, the mire of heresy!

Hail, O divine Paradise, O Abode of Wisdom, O Garden full of charms, planted by the Hand of the Almighty, where the Forest of Life flourishes to impart the science of truth and grant immortality to those who taste it!

Hail, O Sacred Building, O immaculate and spotless Palace of the great King, of God Himself, O you who have been clothed in His Majesty and have called all humankind to receive within you a holy hospitality, where they may rejoice in the mysteries of faith from their very beginning!

Hail, O New Zion, O Holy Jerusalem, O august City of the great King, in whose towers God is clearly known, and through whose midst He passes without shaking or harming it, while He moves nations and makes kings fall at Your feet to pay homage to Your Glory!

Hail, O fruitful and shaded Mountain, where the Lamb who blotted out our sins and healed our diseases was nourished, and from which, without the aid of human hands, the small stone was cast that toppled the altars of idols, and by a wondrous miracle, became the cornerstone!

Hail, O Holy Throne of God, O Sacred Treasure, O resplendent and glorious House, O Venerable Tabernacle, O Chosen Vessel that God reserved for His use, O Merciful Place of the whole universe, O Heaven that recounts the glory of the Most High, O miraculous East from which rises a star that knows no setting, whose point of origin is Heaven, and which offers its warmth to all, that is, the channel of Providence!

Hail Mary, full of grace, holier than the saints, higher than the Heavens, more glorious than the cherubim, more worthy of honor than the seraphim, more venerable than all creatures!

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A marvelous prayer that is also a clear hymn to the Co-redemption and Mediation of Mary Most Holy. To be prayed daily in reparation to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

THE MYSTERIES OF PRAYER

 

A prayer should be uttered with profound awareness of each word. The reasons for this lie not only in the fact that otherwise it would be irreverent toward the One to whom it is addressed, but also in what follows. True prayer, the true message of prayer, consists not only in the words themselves, but primarily in the attitude of the heart, in that which, from the heart, draws us toward God.

If a prayer is uttered with deep awareness, lived deeply, you could consider it as if "receptors" were opened in the soul: channels that make the soul receptive to the power of God. The soul truly perceives the meaning hidden behind the words spoken. With this, a desire for fulfillment is born in the soul, a desire to bring the spoken words to life, and the soul reacts like a flower yearning for sunlight: it opens completely.

For this reason, the soul that prays deeply and consciously can begin to feel united with God.  In it, everything is a yearning for the heavenly, and divine light pours forth completely into that soul. This effect will never be experienced by a soul that prays quickly and without feeling, mechanically or automatically.

This phenomenon also explains why a soul called to it can experience states of true ecstasy during meditative and contemplative prayer: The soul's desires can become so identical with God's desires that the soul flows completely into Us, and thus begins to partake of the perfect peace of heart that is characteristic of the heart of God.

Peace of heart is fundamentally characterized by the flow of God's will into the soul. To attain this peace, the soul must, as a first step, desire unity with God (and with His Blessed Mother) and strive to let go of all worldly perceptions. For this reason, the soul must know how to empty itself in order to arrive at fruitful prayer.

This circumstance is also the reason why holy souls receive certain impressive answers to their prayers, whether directed to God or to the Blessed Virgin. They know how to synchronize themselves so completely with the heart of God and with the heart of the Mother that both can cause torrents of grace to flow into those souls without any impediment.

We might be tempted to buy food because it comes in a can with a particularly attractive label. However, we might ask ourselves: Does the contents of the can taste better (or is its nutritional value greater) because the label is more attractive?

Essentially, it is an offense to God when the soul speaks to Him with empty words. Empty words are those in which the heart is not truly involved. It is not the words of our lips, but the feelings of our heart that express our desire to come into contact with God.  If our hearts are empty of yearning love, our kind words will seem more like an attempt to deceive God regarding our love for Him.

However, we cannot muster the same fervor in prayer every day, but what truly matters is the desire and, in any case, the effort to genuinely penetrate the heart of God.

Modernist Cardinal Fernández Backs Down in the Face of Massive Protests and Allows the Faithful to Continue Using the Term Co-Redemptrix as a Title for the Blessed Virgin

Faced with the wave of protests and disagreements that arose worldwide over his document against titles of the Blessed Virgin Mary that he considered could be confusing despite being true, Cardinal Fernández "Tucho" clarifies that the use of the expression "Co-Redemptrix" has not been censored in any way in the private devotion of Catholics. The restrictions in Mater Populi Fidelis on calling Mary Co-Redemptrix apply exclusively to official Church documents and do not extend to acts of piety, spiritual writings, or the private devotion of Catholics, etc.

In other words, we can all continue using the title as we always have, and since it was clear that the faithful would continue to do so anyway, the Cardinal came forward to "permit" it.

A direct quote from the Cardinal: "If you, along with your group of friends, believe you understand the true meaning of this expression (Co-Redemptrix) [...], and you wish to express it precisely in this way within your prayer group or among friends, YOU MAY USE THE TITLE."

According to the Cardinal, the document sought theological precision, not to prohibit personal devotion. Therefore, it continues to be permitted, as it is an expression used for centuries by saints and popes and is true.

As we explained in a previous post: "It is absurd to silence (in practice suppress) a doctrine when what is needed is to explain and disseminate it, as should be done with all others. Otherwise, under the same pretext (that they could be misunderstood), all other truths would also have to be silenced (in practice suppressed). Everything suggests that what Cardinal "Tucho" actually intends is, under "ecumenical" pretexts, to eliminate that doctrine which is TOO CATHOLIC for Protestants (and also for modernists like himself)."

In reality, it seems that the new "clarification" is a necessary step backward due to the protests and discontent expressed by the faithful, with the hope—in the Cardinal—that Modernism will take two steps forward in the future, according to the old strategy of the fifth columnists.

Photo: Diane Montagna.

IT IS ABSURD TO REMAIN SILENT ABOUT A DOCTRINE WHEN WHAT IS NEEDED IS TO EXPLAIN AND DISSEMINATE IT.

Saint John Henry Newman, recently proclaimed a Doctor of the Church by His Holiness Pope Leo XIV, defended the title of Co-Redemptrix before an Anglican prelate who had refused to recognize it. He declared:

“When you were found with the Fathers calling her Mother of God, Second Eve, Mother of all the living, Mother of Life, Morning Star, Mystical New Heaven, Scepter of Orthodoxy, Immaculate Mother of Holiness, and similar titles, they would have considered it poor compensation for such language if you protested against her being called Co-Redemptrix.”

The term Co-Redemptrix, which in itself denotes a simple cooperation in the Redemption of Jesus Christ, has carried for several centuries, both in theological language and in the teaching of the ordinary Magisterium, the specific meaning of a secondary and dependent COOPERATION.  Then, it suffices to teach this secondary and dependent nature of Mary's role in said cooperation. It is absurd to silence (in practice suppress) a doctrine when what is needed is to explain and disseminate it, as should be done with all others. Otherwise, under the same pretext (that they might be misunderstood), it would be necessary to silence (in practice suppress) all other truths as well.

Everything suggests that what Cardinal "Tucho" actually intends is to eliminate that doctrine which is TOO CATHOLIC for Protestants (and for modernists like himself). Fortunately, the majority of the faithful, guided by their sense of faith, have rejected this imposition contrary to the honor of the Blessed Virgin, although there will undoubtedly be some naive souls who, in good faith, fall into the trap.

WHAT GOD HAS JOINED TOGETHER, LET NO MAN SEPARATE.

 

MIGHT RESISTANCE TO AUTHORITY BE NECESSARY?

Saint Paul and Saint Peter

The Pope, generally, must always be obeyed. When he speaks infallibly, defining ex cathedra, his teachings must be believed with divine faith to remain Catholic. However, when speaking as a private, non-infallible doctor, he might hold a doctrinal error, or he might occasionally err by commanding something contrary to Church Tradition. In such cases, obedience ceases to be obligatory, and resistance might even be necessary, since Sacred Scripture establishes that God must be obeyed rather than men.

As we know, one of the most renowned Doctors of the Church is Saint Catherine of Siena, who corrected the Pope, as we will see later.

Saint Bruno, Bishop of Segni, opposed Pope Paschal II, who had yielded to Emperor Henry V on the Investiture Controversy, and wrote to him: "I esteem you as my Father and Lord (...) I must love you; but I must love even more Him who created you and me (...) I do not praise the pact (signed by the Pope), so horrendous, so violent, made with such treachery, and so contrary to all piety and religion."

At the provincial synod of 1112, with the attendance and approval of Saint Hugh of Grenoble and Saint Godfrey of Amiens, a letter was sent to Paschal II, which reads: "If, as we absolutely do not believe, you choose another path and refuse to confirm the decisions of our paternity, may God help us, for in doing so you will be turning us away from your obedience."

Saint Norbert of Magdeburg, founder of the Premonstratensian Canons, faced with the danger that Pope Innocent II would yield to Emperor Lothair III during the investiture ceremony, said: “Father, what are you going to do? To whom will you hand over the sheep that God has entrusted to you, at the risk of seeing them devoured? You have received a free Church. Are you going to reduce it to slavery? The See of Peter demands the conduct of Peter. I have promised, by Christ, obedience to Peter and to you. But if you grant this request, I will oppose you before the whole Church.”

Vitoria, the great Dominican theologian of the 16th century, wrote: “If the Pope, with his orders and his actions, destroys the Church, he can be resisted and the execution of his commands prevented.”

Suárez states: "If (the Pope) were to issue an order contrary to good morals, he should not be obeyed; if he were to attempt to do something manifestly opposed to justice and the common good, it would be lawful to resist him; if he were to attack by force, he could be repelled by force" ("De Fide").

Saint Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Church, expressed: "When there is imminent danger to the faith, prelates must be challenged, even publicly, by their subjects. Thus, Saint Paul, who was a subject of Saint Peter, challenged him publicly."  Galatians 2:14

As we know, one of the most renowned Doctors of the Church is Saint Catherine of Siena. She rebuked the Pope: "Father, what are you going to do? To whom are you handing over the sheep that God has entrusted to you, at the risk of seeing them devoured? You have received a free Church. Are you going to reduce it to slavery? The Chair of Peter demands the conduct of Peter. I have promised, through Christ, obedience to Peter and to you. But if you grant this request, I will oppose you before the whole Church."